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Brian

Part 4 of 4

Sunny takes up the story again.

That day was a great day for us as a couple. It sort of put us on the same page for pretty much everything after that. Brian now knew exactly what I’d been telling him about for so long and why I was so enthusiastic. He was now convinced and not only that, he was hooked. He couldn’t say enough good things about it. Unfortunately, our timing wasn’t the greatest because the weather turned back to more typical late fall / early winter conditions and there was no more warm weather so that was the one and only outdoor experience that we had before winter set in. I was so glad that it had been so nearly perfect. That was what I had been hoping for and trying to prepare Brian for, and when it all fell into place, I was both happy and relieved.

When I say that he couldn’t say enough about that day, I’m not kidding. We had lots of discussions off and on over the cold winter months about what he thought, about what he felt, and about his concocted fears versus the actual reality of it. It was so interesting to hear him talk; it was a learning experience for me, too, to hear about it from a guy’s perspective. Jeff and I hadn’t really talked about it all that much – before or after – compared to the in-depth discussions that Brian and I had.

Brian still had questions for me, but now they were more of the nature of finding out more about my experiences in other places and with other people. Even though he had read my stories and journals and had heard me talk about all these and other experiences, he still wanted to know all the details of what it was like and what I did and what other people did. I didn’t think too much about the reasons why he might be asking – I just assumed he was looking ahead to the possibility of going with me so I simply answered all his questions and told him everything he wanted to know.

Life was good for us together. We grew closer. Whenever I thought it couldn’t be better, he wormed his way into my heart just a little deeper. We had lots of fun whenever we were together whether it was just the two of us or we were hanging out with friends. We were both busy with school and work and all our other things, but we always looked forward to being together.

 

OK, now fast-forward to spring. Both of us were so anxious for warmer weather to arrive. I’ve always been that way (that’s just me), but now Brian had extra reason to look forward to it, too. It always took some planning and juggling of our schedules and responsibilities to get together during the day on a weekday (weekends weren’t so bad), but now we had more motivation to make it happen.

So when the warm days began to come – infrequently at first and then with increasing regularity – Brian and I would whenever possible get ourselves out to the pasture, out of our clothes, and into our own world. We picked right up where we had left off back in the fall and before not very long that spring, you’d have thought we’d been together since birth and had never worn clothes. It was great. It was open; it was honest; it was sweet; it was love; it was us.

Although I by far preferred going out to the pasture with Brian and spending my time there with him, I never limited myself to only going out there then. I went whenever I could just like I had done before – usually alone; sometimes with Julie and Jeff; and a couple of times it was just Jeff and I. I always told Brian about those times and he had no problems with me going out there with Jeff. By now Brian fully understood and appreciated the fact that Jeff and I were just friends and that being nude with another person (either gender) was totally innocent activity and had no bearing on our relationship any more than visiting with a friend on campus between classes did.

But the one thing Brian couldn’t seem to imagine yet was being nude with others himself. I wasn’t pressuring him to join me in this or anything, but I knew he wanted to do whatever I and my (our) friends did. It wasn’t because he was jealous; it was simply because he is an outgoing, social person and likes to be where people are and to be doing what other people are doing. And if my friends and I were happy and comfortable being nude together, Brian wanted to be part of it, too, and of course I much preferred us being together no matter what was going on as opposed to being apart.

The main problem he worried about was arousal. He and I were completely comfortable being nude together by now and so combine that with the fact that when we did this, we were off by ourselves and, well, when we’re alone, it can happen. I mean, not constantly, but it does happen and since we don’t always have full control over it, Brian assumed that because it happened then, it would happen anytime – even with others. I told him that I didn’t think it would when we were with others because it’s a completely different situation and environment when others are present. To try to describe what I meant, I compared it to when we’re dressed and with others saying that nothing like that ever happens then. However, he informed me that "actually, it does happen then" and that was why he was worried. Hmm - I had to add that to my long list of things that I know but don’t understand about guys.

In the meantime, we continued on just the two of us. I could have been content for a long time like that, but he was still concerned even though I urged him not to worry about it because of me. Julie had brought up the idea of the four of us going hiking together sometime and I had simply replied that I didn’t think we were ready to take that step yet. I didn’t tell her the real reason why because I didn’t want to take the chance of her joking around with him or teasing him about it.

I did however discuss it with Ann because I knew she might have some thoughts on it and I knew she wouldn’t do anything to embarrass Brian whenever we were all together. She agreed with me in thinking that it wouldn’t be a problem now that he’s used to being nude outdoors and that being out with others is like a whole different set of circumstances and mindset. She also agreed that I should never pressure him and just see if time and experience helped him gain confidence. After all, he seemed to be the one who was putting pressure on himself to try being with others. She then went on to say that if there was anything that she and Jim could do to help, to let her know. She said that whenever Brian was ready, maybe we could join her and Jim sometime. She’d talk to Jim about it and see if he had any additional ideas, but that at least with them, Brian could know that he was among caring, understanding, and sympathetic friends.

There was another time that Brian and I and Julie and Jeff had gone out together one evening and we were just hanging out and talking. We were joking around about anything and everything and somehow the conversation meandered around to something that was said or done when Julie, Jeff, and I had been out on one of our earlier hikes. Then Jeff said, "Brian, you know what we need is for you to come along and make the group complete. You ought to join us sometime. Dude, you could do it. It might be a little scary at first, but hey, you’ll be among friends" and then as a goof, he glanced over at Julie and added, "well…mostly." We all laughed.

"Hey, come on, guys," Julie said. Then she said in a clearly false sincere voice, "Brian, I would never even think of embarrassing you." Then pretending to speak under her breath, but still loud enough for all of us to hear, she added, "I don’t have to think to do that."

We all laughed including Brian, but even though she was joking around, I wasn’t sure what might happen in a real situation. I spoke up for both of us and said, "We’ll let you know when we’re ready. OK?"

Brian added a little nervously, "Maybe one of these days."

Then to my surprise, Jeff said in a sudden shift to seriousness, "You know, dude, if you’re worried about what I think you’re worried about, I don’t think it’ll be a problem. I mean, its one thing when it’s just the two of you, but when somebody else is there, too, that makes it all different. At least, that’s the way it is for us."

"I don’t know," Brian replied equally as serious. "I just can’t see how that can be. When Sunny and I are together, it’s like…well…its like I have no control at all."

"Yeah, but it’s all different when it’s with others," Jeff said. "It’s kind of like when you’re showering in the locker room, you know? Even when everybody’s talking about chicks and telling jokes and stuff, it’s not gonna happen there – not in front of everyone."

"But that’s all just talk – the chicks aren’t actually there," Brian replied.

"I know, but still, it’s kinda the same thing," Jeff said. "I mean, Sunny is the only other person we’ve ever been with and when she’s there, it’s kind of like the locker room thing – its not gonna happen. And…well…you know – you both know - that early on, when I was just starting out…that it happened to me…for a while…back then. The only reason I’m talking about that now is because it’s like if Sunny saw me like that again, it wouldn’t be quite as embarrassing as if it had never happened, but what I’m trying to say is, given all that, it still doesn’t happen – not anymore. I mean, it doesn’t even occur to me when she’s there with us. So I’m just thinking it’d be the same for you."

"You guys may be right," Brian said. "But it’s a pretty scary thought trying to find out."

I could see the wheels turning in Jeff’s mind as he said, "Well, maybe just taking it a step at a time is the way to go. How about if just you and I went out there sometime? Would that help?" He was talking to Brian, but he was looking to all of us to consider his idea.

Brian said, "I don’t know. That seems pretty much like the locker room. I don’t know if that’s really going to prove anything or not."

Then I said, "OK then, how about if I come, too?"

"Now that would be a good test," Jeff said.

"I don’t know," Brian said still hesitantly and a little bit exasperated with himself.

Jeff said, "Dude, I’m not trying to pressure you or anything. I’ve just sorta been there done that, you know? So if there’s any way I can help, I’ll be glad to. But it’s totally up to you."

"I know. And I don’t mean to be ungrateful," Brian said.

"It’s OK. I know it’s scary, but it seems like since it would be just the three of us, we could eliminate the scary part of it," Jeff said.

I knew Jeff was thinking of a plan, but it wasn’t clear to me what it was and I didn’t think Brian understood it either so I said, "I’m not following you, Jeff."

Jeff replied, "Well, the scary part of that scenario is that a guy wouldn’t want another guy to see him like that. None of us would. So if the three of us were to go out there and go nude together and anything started to happen – even if you just thought it might - all you’ve got to do, Brian, is just say, ‘Jeff, you’d better leave’ and I’ll disappear and head back to town – immediately - just like that. No questions."

"That does take care of the risk," Brian said. "If I’m ever going to do this, there’s probably not going to be a better situation than that."

"Just say when," Jeff said.

Looking at Brian, I said, "You’ll be back up here again Sunday, won’t you?"

"Yeah," Brian said and then looking to Jeff he asked, "What about Sunday afternoon if the weather’s good?"

"Works for me," Jeff replied.

"Me, too," Julie butted in.

"No!" all three of us responded in unplanned unison. Julie was kidding and we all knew it. We laughed and she pretended to be hurt by not being included, but it was all in fun. Seriously though, had she been going with us I would have been afraid that she would have talked and joked about it so much that that alone would have caused it to happen.

I have to give both Jeff and Brian a lot of credit for having that discussion about erections. That seems to be a difficult subject for guys to talk to each other about and I’m very glad they were able to overcome whatever it is that makes it so difficult.

Brian is going to tell all about that day and more in a little bit. But first, I want to give you a little background on some other things that Brian will go on to tell you about.

My friend, Ann, had offered to help, too, in any way she could so when I told her about how Brian and I had gotten together for some nude hiking with our friend, Jeff, she had suggested that if Brian was interested, maybe he and I could join her and Jim sometime. When I suggested it to Brian, he was interested and although he had a lot more confidence now, he was still cautious. Brian had met Ann and Jim two or three times before and they liked him and he liked them so there was a level of trust already established there.

The way it worked it out was in June, Ann invited Brian and I out to Jim’s parents place in the country on a Sunday afternoon. It was the same sort of outing that they had invited me on before, but this time it was mainly just us two couples. Their two oldest kids were staying with Ann’s parents for the weekend, but the baby was still nursing and so she couldn’t be away from her mom for any great length of time. Ann and I both figured that with just us adults there it would be another good step for Brian. He thought so, too.

But that wasn’t all that Ann and Jim did for us. In July, they invited us to the campground that they belong to. Although they invited us to camp with them for the whole weekend, we were concerned that that might be too much too soon so we decided that we would just drive over on our own and spend a day there with them and see how it went. Ann and Jim are the greatest. First, they kind of took me under their wing and now they’ve included Brian as well.

 

OK, now Brian has a lot to tell.

 

When springtime finally came, Sunny and I soon got totally comfortable going out to the pasture and hiking all over that place. I guess in all honesty I should say it was me who got comfortable. She always was. She and I were like total opposites back then. I had all these fears and anxieties which is so totally unlike me and she was so totally at ease. It seemed like she was equally at ease with or without clothes. I take that back, she actually preferred to be without clothes. Either way, there was no difference in her. She was the same wonderful person that had captured me.

Jeff and Julie brought up the idea of the four of us hiking together sometime and even though Sunny said it didn’t matter to her if we ever joined anybody else or not, I had the sense that she would like to even though I knew she would never pressure me to. In fact, it’s a wonder we never ran into them or at least just Jeff when we were out here, but we were probably only averaging about once every couple of weeks back then.

Even though I was now comfortable being nude with Sunny, the idea of being nude with her plus others terrified me. I couldn’t even begin to imagine how embarrassing it would be if I got aroused with others around. Trying to hide it would be so obvious and so awkward and I was sure Sunny would be so disappointed in me and embarrassed by me. It was such a paralyzing thought and I felt stuck.

Then we decided to have Jeff join us on a nude hike sort of as an experiment. He came up with the idea and after I thought about it, it seemed like the best way to try it. He was cool with the whole idea and being a guy who had only gotten started recently himself, he understood what I was going through. Besides Jeff saying that he would leave if anything started to happen, Sunny had said I should just carry my shorts with me and that I could just slip them on if need be. Both she and Jeff kept saying that everything would be different with him there and while I didn’t doubt that, I still didn’t see how that would help me avoid the problem.

So with all that as background, there we were the three of us running out to the pasture. They were talking and joking around like we all usually did, but I was pretty nervous. They tried to draw me in and I tried to participate, but I definitely wasn’t the life of the party. But anyway, we got to the pasture, climbed over the gate, and headed on back through the trees to the hidey place.

When we got there, I led the way down to the hidey place. As we all reached the bottom, we stood there for just a second staring at each other like nobody knew for sure what to do. I decided in my panicky mind that somebody needed to do something and since this was all for me, I would be the one to start so I started untying my shoes. The others followed my lead and Jeff continued joking around saying things like, that’s what we need, a man of action. I just said something like, gotta keep moving. So there we were the three of us getting undressed together about as fast we could go. I could see the others doing what I was doing, but it was still kind of like a blur. It was kind of like the first time all over again when I took a deep breath, grabbed my shorts and underwear waistbands at the same time, shoved them down, and stepped out of them.

I immediately started pulling my stuff together and thinking so far so good, but we’re just starting out. I was the first one done. I put my stuff under the bush and said that I was heading on up. Sunny asked me if I wanted her to carry my shorts along. I made an instant decision that I was going to go for it - no cover up. I was thinking that I must be crazy. Jeff said, hey, he’s working without a net – one slip and its instant death. I said, listen dude, if I tell you to scram, I’m not kidding! Then I started on back up the side. Sunny told me later that she and Jeff just looked at each other with surprise at how I was taking the initiative and being so bold now that we were actually out there together.

I was the first one to the top and they were right behind me. We took off on our usual course through the trees to get to the open part of the pasture beyond. They continued to talk about this and that and I kept thinking so far so good, but if I even look at Sunny, its going to be all over. Avoiding seeing the others became a lot more difficult when we got out into the grassy part and we began walking mostly side by side, but seeing Jeff there too kept me focused on the fact that this hike wasn’t just Sunny and I. We had company and that made this situation different than the ones before.

My nervousness didn’t seem to have any effect on those two at all. They kept talking about whatever came to mind just like we would have done if we had been someplace else and this too helped me along. At one point one of them drew me into the conversation and I remember that we talked about something for a few minutes before my thoughts returned to the fact that we were all nude out here together. It was then that I began to believe maybe it can be different with others. Maybe when you’re used to it then it can be a lot like when you’re with others in a regular situation. Maybe everybody was right. That was like an "ah-ha" moment for me.

Our hike this day wasn’t any different than the others in terms of where we went or how far or anything like that. I was gradually getting a little more used to it as we continued. Another "ah-ha" observation or understanding occurred regarding Sunny and Jeff. When Sunny first told me about how she helped him get started, I have to confess that inside I was angry and hurt and I guess that stemmed from jealousy on my part. Back then, I just couldn’t imagine how a guy and a girl could be together nude and just be friends. Of course, it was all the worse that it was MY girlfriend who was nude with a guy that wasn’t ME. Sunny had assured me over and over that there was nothing going on and I had accepted that - at least superficially – but underneath it still bothered me. I couldn’t imagine how he or any other guy could be with a nude girl and not stare and ogle and want her. The fact that it was Sunny made it just seem all the more impossible.

But now here they were out here interacting exactly the way I’ve always seen them do before. Talking together. Joking around. Laughing. Just being friends. The only difference was they were both completely nude. Sure, they were seeing each other – all of each other - not hiding anything. But it seemed completely normal just like any other time we had been together. So here was something else that everyone had said that I had doubted. Seeing is believing, I guess.

One funny thing that happened was when we got down to the pond, Jeff said to me, oh yeah, whatever you do, don’t get into a dirt clod throwing contest with her. Too late, Sunny and I both said at the same time.

By the time we got back to the hidey place to get dressed, I was somewhat more comfortable with the situation now than I was starting out. But unlike the other times when I’ve dreaded having to get dressed again, this time I felt a certain relief in being dressed again. I guess now I felt like I could stop worrying and let down my mental guard. But at the same time, I was feeling a sense of accomplishment – like I had overcome a fear barrier and had made it to the next step without anything bad happening.

Nobody said anything about that until we were all dressed again. Then Jeff said something like, well I’m still here – what does that tell you, dude? Sunny hugged me and voiced her approval, too. It turned out to be a good experience and I’m grateful for their patience and encouragement.

 

The next thing I want to write about is a totally unplanned thing that happened on Sunny’s last day of finals. Her last final as it turned out was on the afternoon of the last day of finals. This was the very last thing she had to do before graduation in a couple of days. She of course was happy to be completing her degree, but she was also sad that college was now over for her. She had a lot of friends that would be leaving and there was a certain sense of belonging that was coming to an end. I knew it would be a time of mixed emotions for her, so I planned for us to go out that night to someplace nice to sort of celebrate and help take her mind off the sad part.

I had to work that afternoon, so I couldn’t be there when she came home after her final, but I knew that her best friend was going to come over and hang out with her for awhile. I figured that was the best thing anyway. It seems like girls are better at supporting each other and I just feel so helpless when Sunny cries.

It turned out to be a slow afternoon at my job so I ask to take off early. That put me about an hour ahead of schedule when I got to Sunny’s place. I had hurried around as much as I could to shower and change and get up there, because I didn’t think Julie was going to be able to stay very long and I didn’t want Sunny to be alone any more than she had to. In my hurry, I forgot to call her to let her know I’d be early. I didn’t want her to change her plans anyway.

I hurried up the stairs and knocked on the door. After just a pause, I heard, come in! I opened the door and walked into the kitchen and there sat Sunny and Julie at the table and they were both nude. I was pretty surprised to see them both like that and for just a second I saw them both looking at each other like they do when they’re silently communicating. Then Sunny got up and came over and hugged me and said, hi babe, you’re early. I explained why I was early and then Julie and I said hi. Everything was like normal except for the obvious.

Sunny sat back down and I joined them. They were drinking some flavor of Arizona tea. Sunny loves that stuff, but never buys it for herself (she says it’s too expensive) so Julie had brought some with her to celebrate. Julie offered me some, said she had plenty and jumped up to go to the refrigerator. I looked questioningly to Sunny and she just shrugs her shoulders like she’s saying, don’t worry about it, Julie could have gotten dressed if she’d wanted to. Sunny told me later that when she heard me knock, she told Julie that it was me and that she’d better get dressed. Julie had looked right at her and yelled come in. So that’s how this all started.

Julie got the tea from the refrigerator and then went to the cupboard to get a glass and brought them to the table and sat back down. We talked about Sunny’s final and finishing school and how she was feeling about that. We also talked about mine and Julie’s finals, too, and how we were glad they were over. Just a lot of small talk and unwinding and de-stressing.

Pretty soon, Sunny said she was going to start getting ready. Julie said she needed to leave, too, but was going to put things away first. I could have done that, but I kind of wanted to ask Julie how Sunny was doing. Ordinarily, graduating from college wouldn’t be such an emotional thing, but Sunny had gotten bounced around to three different high schools so she hadn’t developed that sense of belonging then like most of us do. Now having gone to a small college for four years, she had developed that sense of belonging like this was home and family so to speak. I wouldn’t have understood this if I hadn’t known her background.

So Sunny went back to her bedroom to start getting ready and Julie and I got up to clear the table and put things away. I quietly asked her if Sunny was doing OK. She said there were a few tears, but that was all. I thanked her for being there for Sunny. She just smiled and said, hey, she’s my best friend. As crazy and funny as Julie usually acts, she does have a compassionate side. I was glad she was there for Sunny.

It only took a minute to finish what we were doing and then she went over to where her clothes were laying on the sofa. We had just been continuing to visit about school and things. I haven’t written much about the fact that Julie had been nude the entire time I’ve been there, but it hadn’t gone unnoticed. I mean, not in a particularly bad way, but it was the first time I’ve ever seen her nude and well I was still trying to get used to this kind of thing. On the other hand, Julie seemed to be just like Sunny – like this was just normal and it didn’t matter whether this was the first or the millionth time of being nude in front of me.

I was leaning against the counter as she was sorting through her stuff. We continued to talk as she found her panties and picked them up and straightened them out in front of her getting ready to put them on. I was thinking this was not that different from the locker room, but at the same time it was. At that moment, Sunny called her asking something about what to wear. Julie threw the panties back down and turned and went back to the bedroom to help Sunny.

As I waited there, I could hear them talking. Julie was starting to joke around in her usual way. I heard Sunny say something about wanting to wear something because I liked it and Julie said something like, oh, what does he know – he has no taste. Then I heard Julie say, don’t ever wear that – it’s so lame and Sunny said, but you were there when I bought it – you said it was cool and Julie said, well I’ve changed my mind now. I guess maybe that’s the way girls are when they are by themselves.

Pretty soon Sunny called me back to ask me if something she was thinking about wearing was OK for tonight so I go went back there. They were still talking and looking at things and holding them up to see what they looked like together and all that. I just stood there leaning against the door way. I didn’t understand why all the fuss. Tonight was going to be kind of a special night, but it wasn’t that big of a deal and besides, Sunny always looks so hot no matter what she’s wearing.

It was clear that Julie was an expert on clothing and fashion (I already knew that), but I was reminded how ironic this situation was as she advised Sunny and had her try on things while she herself was wearing nothing at all as she went back forth across the room to the closet getting something out and bringing it back and then throwing it on the bed when she decided against it. Another thing that surprised me was that it seemed like every time Julie had Sunny try on something different, it required a complete change of everything underneath, too. A different top required a different bra or no bra or a change of other items that I probably couldn’t begin to spell even if I knew for sure what they were called. But this was their world – all I could do was watch and stay out of the way.

A lot of other puzzling questions and observations came to mind as I watched the two of them together like that. Just like the first time I saw Sunny nude and was surprised by what she looked like, it was the same way with Julie. I mean, for awhile now I figured that we would all wind up nude together someday, but then actually seeing her was a surprise. I don’t know how to explain what I mean – it’s not like I had thought a lot about what she would look like, but then when I saw her it was like it wasn’t what I was expecting. That’s the best I can do to describe it. And so now that it was happening I didn’t know exactly how much I was supposed to notice what with this being not only just a friend, but actually my girlfriend’s best friend. Sunny had said that Julie had been a little overweight at one time, but you couldn’t tell it now. She looked good – not as fit as Sunny – but still really good. I didn’t know if the fact that I was unintentionally comparing them was wrong or not and I didn’t know if I was supposed to notice that she was hot or not.

One encouraging sign about myself that I noticed was that I didn’t get aroused at any point throughout this experience. For the longest time I didn’t even think about it and then when I did, well, there was clearly nothing sexual or provocative about it and my mind (and body) seemed to accept that.

Later on, I discussed all this with Sunny. I’m lucky that she’s open to discussing these kinds of things without getting mad or jealous or anything. She always says she wants to know anything I’m thinking about and anything I want to tell her, so she’s not going to get mad and block me out. I want to be the same way with her. So I told her all my questions and concerns about being with the two of them like that. She didn’t seem too concerned about any of it given the fact that that was only the second girl I’ve been around in a naturist type situation. She said its really no different than in a clothed setting – you can notice that another person is a hottie, but that doesn’t mean you want to be with them. In fact, it doesn’t mean anything at all, other than you’re healthy (she always says that). She also told me that was Julie’s first time to be socially nude with a guy other than Jeff. I told her that surprised me because she seemed so casual and nonchalant about it. She said that was because girls are usually more critical of each other than guys. Later after she and Julie had had a chance to discuss it further, she told me a lot more funny stuff that Julie said about it, but I can’t go into everything here.

 

The next thing that happened was during June when Sunny’s friends, Ann and Jim invited us both to get together with them for an afternoon. I had met them and their kids several times since Sunny and I started going out and I liked them and understood why Sunny was so fond of them and they her. I knew that Sunny had told Ann all about me and all my stupid hang-ups so I figured Ann had in turn told Jim and I might as well relax because now there were no secrets. It wasn’t until later on that I figured out this whole thing was arranged just to accommodate me and help me along in feeling more comfortable and confident. I’ve been lucky to have so many people that knew what I needed because I sure didn’t.

Sunny and I met up with Ann and Jim at their house. We hung there for a while until they were ready to go. Their two oldest kids were staying with grandparents so it was to be just the four of us plus the baby who I guess was still too young to be away from her mother. Sunny had first introduced me to them before I knew about Sunny’s and their preference for being nude. They seemed like regular people and when Sunny finally filled me in on everything, I kept trying to see what was different about them, but I couldn’t see any difference. They still seemed like nice, likeable people, but nothing out of the ordinary.

We were going out to one of their parent’s home some miles out of town to enjoy their pool for the afternoon. The parents were gone on vacation and Ann and Jim went out to check on the place while they were gone. Sunny had told me about going out there before and I had read her stories about it, too, so it wasn’t totally unfamiliar.

Before we got to Ann and Jim’s, Sunny had asked me if I wanted us to drive out there separately just in case I felt uncomfortable and wanted to leave before they were ready. But by now I had pretty much learned to trust that anything that Sunny said was going to be OK would turn out to be OK so I said either way was fine with me.

We wound up riding together in their van and it wasn’t too long of a trip. They are very friendly and easy to talk to and the time went fast. We got there and I could see that the place was every bit as nice as Sunny had described it. Jim said that he had come out the day before to mow and trim so the place looked immaculate as we pulled in the drive.

We carried a few things into the house and then Jim suggested that he and I go out back and maintain the pool so we headed out through the back door. Sunny told me later that after we had stepped out, Ann had said, Jim is going to have a little talk with him, and that had worried Sunny a little bit. She didn’t know that Jim had anything like that planned and was afraid he might scare me off or something. But that wasn’t the way it turned out. Jim is kind of a soft-spoken person and he simply wanted to talk to me about what to expect that day and to put me at ease.

He said that they were going to be nude all afternoon because that is their preference and that I was free to join them that way or not – whatever suited me. He said that he knew I was sort of new to all this and that Ann had said that Sunny had said that I was still a little worried about an erection. He told me that if it would help me not to worry that I could keep a towel close by to cover up with or slip on my shorts or just go inside for awhile or whatever I felt like I needed to do. He said they would totally understand, would not be offended, and that they were totally on my side. He said that was also part of the reason they had arranged for the kids to be elsewhere today. It wasn’t like he was laying down the law or anything like that. Sometimes when older people are explaining things to you, it feels like that, but this didn’t. Instead I felt much more at ease and I did feel that he was genuinely interested in me and was on my side. I thanked him and told him that made me more comfortable and that I intended to join the party today. He said something like that’s the spirit and started getting undressed. I did, too. Sunny told me later that she kept finding excuses to look out the back to see what was going on and that she was relieved to see us getting undressed and talking in a casual way.

We started testing the pool and then cleaning it and hosing down the deck and the patio furniture. When we got that done, we were standing around talking when Sunny and Ann came out on the deck and started down the stairs to the pool. They were both nude already. Sunny was carrying a tray with iced tea and glasses and Ann was carrying the baby. Sunny set the tray down and then took the baby and started talking to her in that way that people talk to babies that makes them smile and laugh. She took her over to the pool and went down the steps into the water talking to her all the while. Sunny loves kids and it shows when she’s with them – and they seem to love her, too. Ann offered us some iced tea and poured it for us as we came over to the table.

I was starting to think that maybe I was getting used to being around nude women when I didn’t feel surprised at what Ann looked like. At least, I was hoping that it was because it seemed more normal and that it wasn’t because she was older or married or something like that. She certainly is a very beautiful woman, so it’s not because of physical appearance. At any rate, here we were, all together, all nude, and I wasn’t the least bit panicky. Sunny and the baby were having a great time in the pool as she dipped her into the water and lifted her right out again. The baby was laughing and Sunny looked so beautiful and natural playing with the little one. Sunny called me to come join her, so I did and she had me hold the baby and try to do what she did, but I felt pretty awkward at that.

Pretty soon Jim and Ann came into the pool, too. Ann brought this floating thing for the baby to sit in and then all of us just sort of floated and bobbed around in the cool water – talking and laughing. We did this for quite a while, but then the baby started to get unhappy. Ann said she needed to feed her and put her down for a nap. Ann asked Sunny to watch her for a minute while she ran back in to get the diaper bag. She said she also needed to bring out the playpen for the baby to sleep in. That’s when Sunny suggested I go with her to get the playpen (it was one of the things that we had carried in when we first got there). I said sure.

We got out of the pool. Ann grabbed a towel, dried off a little and said just enough so we don’t drip all over the house so I did the same. Then instead of wrapping the towel around herself like I thought she would, she just threw it back down and headed for the stairs. I did the same and followed her up the stairs. We went into the house to where the playpen was and we had to fold it back up to take it outside (they had set it up for the baby while they were working inside). We worked together to do that since she knew how it worked. It occurred to me during this time that here I was alone in a house with a nude woman and I’m nude, but there was nothing sexual or provocative about it. By now, I had been together with her (and Jim) nude more than I’ve ever been with them dressed and this just seemed normal. Ann was absolutely no different than she had been before. She just talked away about anything and everything and carried herself absolutely no differently alone with me than she would have dressed and with the others. Sunny told me later that she had intentionally wanted me to be around Ann so that I could see that it is perfectly normal to be nude with a beautiful, sexy woman without it being sexual. I said, that’s fine, but what do I do when I’m with you - the most beautiful, most sexy woman in the world? I’m glad you think so, was all she said.

Anyway, I picked up the playpen and Ann grabbed the diaper bag and we headed back out. Ann held the door for me and we took everything back down the stairs. She laid out a towel, Sunny brought her the baby and while she proceeded to change her, Sunny and I set up the playpen in the shade. We goofed around with that job and by the time we went back to the pool, Ann and Jim were sitting side by side at the edge of the pool with their legs in the water while Ann was nursing the baby.

Sunny and I took the stairs down into the pool so as not to startle the baby while she nursed. I wasn’t sure if this was something that I was supposed to look at or not, but Sunny went right up to Ann and gently stroked the baby’s head while she was nursing. Then without taking her eyes off the baby, Sunny said to me, Brian, have you ever seen a baby nurse before? I said that I hadn’t and took that as a cue that it was OK to be there and to watch. It was a very quiet, peaceful time with nobody saying much. The baby seemed to grow more and more sleepy as she nursed with her eyes closed as Ann cradled her in her arms. I remember Jim was sitting next to Ann and at one point put his arm around her side and said something like, you’re a great mom and such a woman. She smiled at him for his sign of approval and they kissed and at the time I didn’t think much about what he’d said, but later on when Sunny and I talked about it, she explained how important it is for a woman to hear things like that.

During these quiet moments, I had this flight of ideas (as Sunny calls it) and this will probably all sound totally dumb to everybody, but I’m going to put it down anyway. I noticed that Ann had this look of contentment as she cradled her baby as it nursed and as Sunny stood there I noticed she had a similar kind of look and I wondered if this was some sort of maternal instinct thing that all women have even if they’re not a mother. I wondered if Sunny ever wondered about what it would be like to be pregnant and have a baby. I wondered if she wondered what it might feel like to have a baby nursing or if girls already know what that’s like. I glanced down at her and wondered what her tummy would look like pooching out instead of flat with those sexy girl abs. I glanced at her breasts and wondered if they would look much different. I glanced at Ann’s breasts and wondered if they look any different when she’s not nursing. Don’t ask me why I thought about any of this stuff. Anyway, seeing Sunny there with that happy look made want to put my arm around her and hold her close, but then I thought about my worries about involuntary reactions and decided not to press my luck.

As I saw Jim and Ann together with their child, I thought about the openness and honesty and naturalness of how they appeared to me. I guess I was still trying to get over the nudity equals sex hang-up, because I was thinking here is a man and woman that obviously has sex together yet here they are in front of us completely nude with all their sexuality in full view just like they are when they have sex, but yet this is not sexual. That thought looped around in my head a few times and then I thought but wait, here is Sunny and I nude with all our sexuality in full view, but we don’t have sex even though we wish we could and yet this, too, is equally not sexual. Then I thought about how the baby was conceived inside Ann’s body and developed there and was born from there and now her body was providing the nourishment for the baby right in front of me. Yet in spite of all that, I know her as a person and know that she is obviously so much more than just a baby factory. That’s kind of when I began to see that our nude bodies are so much more than just implements for sex and reproduction and that that’s why it is possible to be our normal selves – the complete person that we are - without clothes on. Later on when I shared all this Sunny, she just said, that’s interesting and I know when she says that she thinks I’m totally crazy. But I honestly believe that this was another defining moment for my understanding and acceptance of the fact that being nude – alone or as a couple or with a few friends or in a crowd – can be a normal, non-sexual state of being and freedom.

When the baby was totally asleep, Ann gently handed her to Sunny. Then Jim helped Ann up and Ann took the baby back from Sunny. As they took the baby over to lay her down, Sunny and I moved out into the pool and then swam over to the other end. Sunny asked me, you doin’ OK, babe? I said, yeah, this is really great and Jim and Ann are really cool – I thought so before, but now I really understand why you’re such good friends with them. They like you, too, she said and just then all of a sudden she tried to dunk me, but I saw what she was up to soon enough to stop her. No you don’t, I said as I grabbed her and dunked her instead and pushed her way down under the water just for fun. She came up sputtering and laughing and threatening to get me back, which she did the next time I wasn’t looking – she always does. Sunny told me later that it was at around this time that she noticed I started being more relaxed and more like my usual self.

Soon Jim and Ann came back into the pool and the four of us talked and joked and goofed around. Sunny jumped out and got an old tennis ball and we all threw that around for awhile. We managed to do all this somehow without waking up the baby. It was really a relaxed, fun time. After a time, Ann suggested we eat and said she and Sunny would bring it out. Jim and I offered to help, but they said stay here and keep an eye on the baby so we did. We just leaned back against the side of the pool in the water and talked about sports and business and school and whatever. He’s pretty quiet in a group, but one on one he’s a good conversationalist.

We saw Ann and Sunny come out and down the stairs carrying stuff so we got out of the pool. There was a little bit more to get so Sunny volunteered to go get it so I went with her and followed her up the stairs and then we brought the rest of it down. Then we sat down around the patio table and ate. We all sat on towels; I hadn’t even dried off after getting out of the pool – there was no need.

I enjoyed the rest of the afternoon out there and hated to get dressed when it was time to go. I noticed that all of us put it off until the very last thing before leaving.

That day, I learned that I could be nude with others – both genders - and that it really was a completely different environment with a completely different feel to it than when it was just Sunny and I alone. And after that when it was just Sunny and I alone, I found that I had a more relaxed attitude when arousal did happen. I didn’t worry that I have no control over this and wonder how I was ever going to be with others. Instead, I found I could just accept it when it happened and know that hey, it’s just us so it’s OK and when it’s not just us, it’s not going to be a problem. I think that’s the way Sunny’s attitude toward it had been all along.

 

The next big thing that happened was when Sunny said that Jim and Ann were going camping at the nude campground club they belong to and had invited us both to go if we wanted. Sunny had told me all about this place and I had read all of her stories and journals about it, too. I knew for sure I wanted to at least visit, but I wondered about trying to do the whole weekend. I said, I don’t know – do you think I’m ready for all that? She said, Jim and Ann think you are and I think yeah probably, but maybe we should just go for a day – that would be more like a visit so that you could see how you like it. I made some joke about it was nice that they were all plotting and planning my life behind my back and she said, somebody’s gotta take care of you – you can’t seem to do it yourself. So that’s what we decided to do.

So very early on a Saturday morning in about the middle of summer, Sunny came down to my place and we got in my car and took off. She said we should get there fairly early so that we could enjoy the whole day.

It was a long drive, but we finally got there. She had me stop at the house right there where you pull in to check in and let them know we were there. She said we didn’t have to because we were guests of Jim and Ann, but that it would be a courtesy and besides she wanted to be sure to say hello to the caretakers. We found them out back and she introduced me. They were very welcoming and were the first nude people we saw.

When we got back to the car to drive on in, Sunny asked me if I wanted to get undressed here or wait until we were in the parking lot or wait until we were at Jim and Ann’s campsite. I said I’m with you, babe – this is your territory – I’ll do whatever you do. She said, well I’d get undressed here. I said then so would I and started to get undressed. She said, race ya!

Then we drove on in, left the car, and walked into the camping area to find Jim and Ann’s campsite. We saw them about the same time they saw us and the kids came running to greet us – actually it was to greet Sunny, they didn’t really know me that well yet. She hugged them both and they each held one of her hands as they led us to the campsite. We said hi to Jim and Ann and saw the baby and then the introductions began. I was introduced to so many people that day that I couldn’t possibly begin to remember all the names and I’m usually pretty good with names.

I was immediately struck by how friendly everyone was (that is, immediately after being struck by the fact that everyone was nude!). At first it was just people older than us stopping by the campsite to say hi and saying how glad they were to see Sunny again and being introduced to me. Some of them told me that Sunny had told them all about me last summer and that they were glad to finally meet me and glad that I was here. First of all, I was surprised and happy to learn that Sunny was so impressed with me back then, but secondly I was surprised with the genuiness of their comments. Usually, when meeting people for the first time, they say kind things out of politeness, but I could tell that these people really meant what they said. Then I was thinking that maybe they’re just being so friendly toward me because they like Sunny so much and they associate me with her, but before long I began to realize that they would probably have treated me the same way even if I’d showed up by myself as a total stranger.

Seeing Sunny here in this environment was a pure pleasure for me. She was really in her element here. To see her interacting with all the various people she encountered, young and old, and to see her friendly radiance spread to those she talked to reminded me again of all the things that attracted me to her in the first place and made me fall for her. There were a number of children there besides Jim and Ann’s that were so glad to see her and she showed such excitement and interest in what they had to say. And there were a couple of teenage girls that really seemed to look up to her and she talked and listened to them and encouraged them and built them up. I suppose they considered her both a friend and a role model. They should anyway.

We did a lot of things that day with a lot of people. Sunny and I were together most of the time, but we were always with others doing something or other. We took the kids swimming a couple of times and played with them and some of the others in the play area. We hiked a few of the trails at various times and one or more of her friends came with us. We played Frisbee out in the field with various people a few times.

At one point, I could sense that something was going on between Sunny and her girl friends. Then she asked me to go to the car and bring down the cooler so that it would be there later when we had a meal. I could tell she just wanted to get rid of me for awhile and that was OK. Jim offered to go with me and as we walked he asked how I was getting along and what I thought of all this. I told him I had no fears anymore and that I thought this was a great way to be and that I also thought the campground was a great place. Everything Sunny had said about it was true.

We took our time going to the car and then coming back. I could see Sunny with her friends standing down at another campsite and they were talking and laughing. She saw me and gave me a little wave and then continued on with their conversation. She told me later the girls were asking all kinds of questions about me and wondering if I had any younger brothers and other girl talk stuff like that. I told her thanks for giving me something else to do.

I spent some more time with Jim and then Ann and a few others as they stopped by to visit. It wasn’t until later that I realized that being there for awhile on my own without Sunny was a good confidence builder for me in that I then knew for sure that I could just be me in that environment and that was OK.

The day passed very quickly. We had planned to head back right after dinner, but neither of us wanted to go so we kept delaying it. The kids didn’t want Sunny to go at all and finally as a compromise we agreed to stay until their bedtime so that she could help tuck them in and kiss them good night.

After that, we said our good-byes to Jim and Ann and thanked them for inviting us and hosting us for the day. As we started toward the car, we said good-bye to others that we saw. They all said they were sorry we had to go and told us to come back. We said we would. Sunny wanted to stop at the campsite of one her girl friends and it turned out they were both there so we all talked for a few minutes. They didn’t want us to go, but we said good-bye and Sunny hugged them both. As we turned to leave, the younger one yelled out, hey, how about cousins – do you have any guy cousins! They all three laughed, but I didn’t have a clue until Sunny told me what they had been talking about earlier. Sunny said the younger one reminds her of herself when she was that age, but her personality and sense of humor reminds her of Julie. I said, oh no – I don’t think the world is ready for another Julie.

The closer we got to the car, the slower we walked. Neither one of us wanted to leave. When we got to the car, we stopped and just looked at each other there in the dark with just the faint light coming from the camping area. Sunny said to me, did you have an OK day, babe? I said, it was way more than OK – it was great! She just smiled at me in understanding. I said sorry we have to leave – that kind of ruins the trip for you when you could have stayed all weekend. She said no it doesn’t - this has been the best trip – because you came with me. Then she looked at the car, then looked back at me and said, wait, there is one more thing we have to do – come on. And she grabbed my hand and we headed across the road and down the other side of the hill away from the camping area.

When we were down the hill about halfway, she stopped and said, look – isn’t it beautiful! She was talking about all the stars in the sky and the fireflies blinking out across the field. We were away from everything so there was no artificial light back here. As we stood there holding hands, she said it’s so calm – so peaceful. I glanced at her as she gazed out across the field and at the sky. Our eyes had adjusted to the darkness by now and it was easy to see her features and wisps of her hair blowing in the gentle warm night breeze and the look of wonder and happiness on her face. Sometimes when I see her in some new place or situation, I’m amazed all over again at how special she is to me and how much I love her. This was one of those times. I said, this is how it’s supposed to be, isn’t it. She looked at me and in her soft voice she said, yeah, that’s what I think. I let go of her hand, slipped my arm around her waist, and pulled her close. We kissed and held each other and told each other how much we loved each other. There in that peaceful place on the hillside that night, it seemed like we were the only two people in the world.

Then all too soon we made our way back up the hill to the car again. But this time we did get dressed, got in, and left as quietly as we could. It was a long drive home and we were tired after a long day of fun, but in spite of that I think I talked non-stop all the way back about all that we had done that day and my thoughts and impressions on all of it. It had been so cool. I was definitely hooked now. Spending that day in a place that is specifically for nude recreation and with a community of people that lives like that at least when they are there was such overwhelming proof that this is a good thing – a very good thing.

It took a lot of help from a lot of people to bring me along to this point, but thanks to them all, I’m there now. And I’m so glad I am.

 

Me, too.

End - Part 4 of 4

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